Google Stadia May Get Sued After Lying About 4K 60FPS Support

20. feb.. 2021
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SOURCE 1: notown.info/two/video/1Lqgm2lzaNV_06M.html
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SOURCE 3: notown.info/two/video/1Lqgm2lzaNV_06M.html
SOURCE 4: twitter.com/MrPhilHarrison/status/1181739544783097858
SOURCE 5: www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/dis3p5/rdr2_running_at_4k60fps_confirmed/
SOURCE 6: www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-11-25-google-issues-statement-after-stadia-owners-say-it-broke-promises-over-game-performance
SOURCE 7: notown.info/two/video/1Lqgm2lzaNV_06M.html
SOURCE 8: slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/5Wx9QeorMSfMZCwLg6VpoS/doom-eternal-launch-details
SOURCE 9: 9to5google.com/2021/02/18/stadia-4k-lawsuit-class-action/
SOURCE 10: kotaku.com/stadia-leadership-praised-development-studios-for-great-1846281384
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  • There needs to be more accountability for misleading marketing tactics. Otherwise companies have no reason to stop. SURPRISE MECHANICS (MERCH): www.yongyea.com PATREON: www.patreon.com/yongyea TWITTER: twitter.com/yongyea TOP PATRONS [BIG BOSS] - callmevocal - Charlie Galvin - Jonathan Ball - WECKmaster329 [BOSS] - Devon B - Ethan Spidey - Gerardo Andrade - Joe Hunt - Matthew Szalkiewicz - Michael Redmond - Peter Vrba - Shepard Gaming - Time Dragonlord [LEGENDARY] - BattleBladeWar - Derek Revis - JT Scout - Simon S - Theron Webb - Yue

    YongYeaYongYea12 dager siden
    • Even if the law suite doesn’t do much for them.. the damage has been done and I don’t see many developer parties working with them in the future.

      The NerdygiantThe Nerdygiant10 dager siden
    • I’m just waiting for the Bethesda excuse to come out. And yes, I’m labeling it the Bethesda excuse. “You see. If I tell my kid we’re going to Disneyland that weekend, and then I get sick, and say I can’t take you there this weekend, they should understand that I didn’t lie. And that analogy is completely like advertising features of a product, which were taken as part of a monetary transaction (where they buy it for the reason of said features), and then taking those features away only after they bought the product, then claim no refunds. Exactly the same thing.” But the real problem, just as I said way back when they first advertised it, is that they made promises they couldn’t make. They made promises about companies, and ISPs, that they don’t control nor have any monetary influence over. I might as well promise that a random mid-western restaurant will give everybody a 40% discount, next Wednesday, I promise.

      akaimizu1akaimizu110 dager siden
    • At the end of the day if these companies keep getting sued they will have to start putting the customer first. I mean shit with expenential growth you'd think they'd stop being so greedy especially in the entertainment industry and just tell the truth...

      DylanDylan11 dager siden
    • Oh like when you praised cyberpunk in your review and said it lived up to the hype? And now you pretend as if that review never happened.

      jah55jah5511 dager siden
    • I agree if you are using marketing tactics that isn't truthful and honest. These companies need to get punished, sued for using those kind of tactics.

      Derrick JenkinsDerrick Jenkins12 dager siden
  • I hope they do get sued..Google are tyrants and theives

    Scott NewcomerScott NewcomerDag siden
  • man this year is almost as crazy as 2020

    Neon RainbowNeon Rainbow5 dager siden
  • Google could care less if they get sued. Even IF someone manage to sue and win.....it wouldn't do anything to change Google or hurt their bank unfortunately. I hope I get to see the day all these big tech companies burn but at this rate, we're going full into dystopian cyberpunk evil corporations running the world, timeline.

    Joe BallzJoe Ballz5 dager siden
  • Stadia definitly is the bigg flop, just not a terra flop. They should know not to promoise something and which they cant deliver.

    AdamAdam6 dager siden
  • they always use teraflops. that's one component to hardware. you don't just put more teraflops on there and now your superior. not how it works. stop using the ignorant media as your marketing tool so they can go off and brag about numbers that they don't understand and that ultimately doesn't mean anything. you could pair a titan with a pentium g4560 and 4 gb of ram and focus just on the titan in your marketing of the system. but your rig is still worse than a mid - upper range build that has a 2060 super and a core i5 10600k and 16 gb of ram. and of course google knows that idiots don't know that so they will focus on one thing and ignore that the fucking thing doesn't even work in the first place.

    NexusNexus6 dager siden
  • We don't call it lying, we call it surprise pause!

    Mikołaj WojtasMikołaj Wojtas6 dager siden
  • A toaster can run Doom Eternal at 4K60, if Stadia can’t run literally the most optimized modern game at 4K60, it’s not doing it with any of them 😆

    False ProphetFalse Prophet7 dager siden
  • FP32 performance (measured in Teraflops, etc) is a really bad way of measuring gaming performance. Console manufacturers use it to pull the wool over people’s eyes who don’t know any better. If Tflops was the end all performance metric, the 3090 would be 3x faster than a 6800XT, and it’s not even remotely close to that. More like 10-15%

    False ProphetFalse Prophet7 dager siden
  • I knew the 4K claims were BS on day one. I’ve been gaming at resolutions beyond 4K for a decade (technically 5760x1080 at 120hz which is more resource intensive than 4K60, I always had between 2-4 GPUs) even the best of the best hardware struggles at 4K60 in some of the latest games. Stadia isn’t rocking 2080 Ti’s on every server, so it’s obvious to anyone with extensive experience in high res gaming and PC hardware Stadia was full of it

    False ProphetFalse Prophet7 dager siden
  • Dude, all Stadia’s servers are mining Etherium right now. Who needs subscribers when you can mine for gold?

    False ProphetFalse Prophet7 dager siden
  • My opinion is that it's not problem with Stadia hardware running games at 4k; it's bandwidth problem. Internet connections all over are relatively poor quality for 4k streaming gaming where you need huge bandwidth, minimal ping and 100% stable connection. And only direct optic connection can provide that. In US, only around 30% of population has option to connect to optic fiber (doesn't mean they all have it) and it's like that only in major cities.

    Dejan KoberDejan Kober7 dager siden
  • They should get sued for lying to customers. These developers need to start being held accountable for screwing over people but releasing unfinished games to appease shareholders

    J EastJ East7 dager siden
  • this shit is why streaming should NEVER replace traditional gaming

    alex duffyalex duffy7 dager siden
  • I warned several of my friends that whoever give executive orders in Cyberpunk 2077 and Google Stadia were severely overestimating their ability (and severely underestimating reality). They immediately shut me down and called me killjoy, rodeo, idiot, paranoid, fear-monger, etc. Now it's proven that those 2 products are pretty much in the same category: overhyped failure, and I can only drink their tears. It's clear to me now why the majority of today's entertainment industry is declining in quality. Today's consoomer culture is the main thing that supports this kind of unethical business move.

    Indra PratamaIndra Pratama7 dager siden
  • Can i get a Touted/piss-poor in chat.

    Austen JoeckelAusten Joeckel7 dager siden
  • yes they need to be held accountable but class action are stupid and money goes to the lawyers good luck with that $2 check a year later lol

    Christopher thaoChristopher thao7 dager siden
  • Have not seen the vid yet, going through ads. Title alone: Hell Yes!

    Redig TuffingRedig Tuffing7 dager siden
  • I will say this right now, 4k is a nightmare. Night mare to render, night mare to make assets for in CG. I hate 4k. HD is enough. Next will be 8k or 16k PLEASE!

    Eddie MorenoEddie Moreno8 dager siden
  • All I want to say is, *Nice*

    ReiizReiiz8 dager siden
  • LMAO. All those stadia simps deserve this for actually trusting google with their obvious cash grab.

    sma shedsma shed8 dager siden
  • Awesome! I hope Google goes broke at some point.

    Political Correctness Offends mePolitical Correctness Offends me8 dager siden
  • With this and how badly recent live service games like Anthem/Avengers part of me wants to believe this whole always online crap will end but i think we all know thats not gonna happen....

    arturoperezifyarturoperezify8 dager siden
  • this is why cloud gaming and digital ONLY will never become the future of gaming, just look at google AND amazon, both MEGA corporations based on what define a MEGA corporations and yet...they can't even make a decent cloud service nor games that work, it pretty much showcase that all that jab about it is just for the money and nothing more

    jackthegamerjackthegamer8 dager siden
  • why won't they just kill it instead of keep making fools out of themselves?

    Ninja FiremanNinja Fireman8 dager siden
  • It's amazing that Phil continues to get employed. Hes been involved with the failed and death of how many consoles? Hes the only dude that fails and falls upward. Its insanity.

    HERO Dad Travel VlogsHERO Dad Travel Vlogs8 dager siden
  • Google needs to be sued for a lot of things. They are a terrible, manipulative company.

    DragonNinja 365DragonNinja 3658 dager siden
  • I'm a gamer but these gamers really need to get laid. people will complain about anything. lol

    Logan BraveheartLogan Braveheart8 dager siden
  • I knew that claim was garbage from the start. I worked at best buy and also in a lot of data centers. Google didn't spend enough resources on Data Centers to make stadia work. This is a tech demo that got no traction and failed.

    Benjamin WoodhamBenjamin Woodham8 dager siden
  • Never good news here when it comes to Stadia....lmao. Not a big fan of Stadia's model but they do have some good news here and there such as new pro games announced this week.

    gdiggedy9gdiggedy98 dager siden
  • Oh come on, every product promises something and does not deliver, this channel is supposed to be about an assian guy pretending to speak like an English man

    nady jose villar tavareznady jose villar tavarez8 dager siden
  • Yong can we stop shitting on Stadia, they really tried to innovate but some people just cant have 4k streaming quality connection and they are trying to streamline it. I really hope in future they will work with Elon Musk's Starlink for a stable satelite internet with 0 latency.

    SawceSawce8 dager siden
  • Gaming used to be simple...

    Red Dead VibesRed Dead Vibes9 dager siden
  • Damn...you must read their account comments....or the people really are trolling, or they´re really dumb...and the funniest - you cant be sure, because google answers to them all like they´re ALL legit

    Rest PeaceRest Peace9 dager siden
  • 0:07 AMONGS

    Ben GrahlBen Grahl9 dager siden
  • Google has its own cemetery, that should say something.

    Max HellMax Hell9 dager siden
  • Erh... No dude... The problem with Stadia isn't their hardware capabilities but their streaming, data throughput and sustainablitity through the various ISP's operators' bandwidth. The problem with streaming 4K 60 FPS is that you would need a *SYMMETRICAL* , sustained 40mbps upload and download speed to guarantee the least amount of lag akin to what fighting games online player expect to deal with. Problem is that most, if not all. ISPs out there never provide symmetrical access so Stadia's service was doomed to fail just for that. Nobody says they didn't lie through their teeth though as their claims were complete fabrications and unfeasible from the getgo. Exactly how MS touted that the _"incredible power of the cloud"_ would help render Crackdown in real time. Some 3D and graphics rendering companies are currently using that same BS.

    Jesús Adrián Altamirano UruñuelaJesús Adrián Altamirano Uruñuela9 dager siden
  • I don’t see them winning this, google is just too rich. They will bullshit their way out of the suit

    SuperHothead14SuperHothead149 dager siden
  • Hey yong! At the end of the day it doesn't matter if Stadia truly lied or not, its about public perception. Even if something is worded such that its not actually a lie, the way the average consumer would interpret the ad or statement, is what actually determines false advertising. IE. Even with the statement "UP TO 4K"; if it is worded or presented in such a way that the average consumer is lead to believe they are receiving TRUE 4k on every title.. it is still considered false advertisement. TL;DR Consumer perception matters more than actual intent. Misleading advertising is still false advertising by law.

    DakotaDakota9 dager siden
  • Best month ever!!! 3 stadia's dedz video in a month! Lol. Yong, there are alot of positive things in the gaming industry you can discuss. Why focus on the negative news.

    Mario DefeoMario Defeo9 dager siden
  • Good, fuck games as a service. We need to maintain the right to own and modify our games and not lose access arbitrarily for what we paid for

    EpicWinNoobEpicWinNoob9 dager siden
  • Called it.

    Trayc RussellTrayc Russell9 dager siden
  • anyway google youtube downscale every video now these day 1080p look like 720p they struggleliing video are to big in size...

    YazmoYazmo9 dager siden
  • "Up to" is an old marketing trick not unique to Stadia. When you see that, think "no more than" and you won't be disappointed.

    Kizmo 2Kizmo 29 dager siden
  • me looking internet router's wireless internet speed: *5mbps at max internet speed and mostly stays at 1.2 mbps* (Stable 4-5mbps on wired connection) so if doom eternal is 150 GB, how long will it take for me to even play the first stage? I'll take the steam copy any day, yes it require space but who cares? I can copy the game to an external storage and just uninstall the game anytime and put back the game from my external drive anytime to play again. and most games didn't even have 4k support, so they are just now upscaling the game? Stadia should've known not to promise big and not all people have good and stable internet. There's not much market for them to sell Stadia and it's games. You don't have the physical nor digital copy, if stadia does down your games are gone as well. We all saw this even before stadia began

    Ashura D_FoxAshura D_Fox9 dager siden
  • All you really need these days for console is just a TV with a really high IPS and it'll look more gorgeous than stadia.

    bemy guestbemy guest9 dager siden
  • EVERYTHING'S FAKE!

    JackJack9 dager siden
  • Stadia *is* a Teraflop, but not as a speed unit.

    LarixusSnydesLarixusSnydes9 dager siden
  • I keep forgetting that Stadia even exist and only your vids remained of that.

    KahlezKahlez9 dager siden
  • So that's what asmongold would look like on crack?

    meme tacomeme taco9 dager siden
  • "Working with you is a liability." Keep proving that point, Google. Keep right on proving that point.

    Professional HimboProfessional Himbo9 dager siden
  • The fuck are you talking about terraflops for? That has nothing to do with stadia. Why the fuck do these console kids keep talking about that shit like its any form of performance measure.

    DannyJoe08DannyJoe089 dager siden
  • Streaming games. lol Cheapass idiots think it will save them money on computer parts so they can keep using their potato machines. I rather invested into a better laptop so I can play anywhere. It really came handy last year in november when i had to entertain myself for a whole day at arlanda.

    AdriánAdrián9 dager siden
  • Funnily enough while it can't run anything else properly it apparently runs cyberpunk really well!

    Sam TaggSam Tagg9 dager siden
  • Like allot of people know and say the internet around the world just isn't there yet, Plus Google doesn't know a thing about gaming, You can't expect a game to be built in a year definitely not a AAA game

    ElectroElectro9 dager siden
  • "up to" so usual ISP bs, "up to 1gb" but 700mb/s is still "up to". Btw ps4 isn't "true 4k" as well

    starrkystarrky9 dager siden
  • Lol. Stadia is a terrible idea even for casuals

    MALLANGSMALLANGS10 dager siden
  • what are teraflops?

    rjshadow4321rjshadow432110 dager siden
  • At least Todd Howard made his lies profitable... Even Stadia couldn't even do that

    Why Trash EarthWhy Trash Earth10 dager siden
  • Um this plays off as disingenuous as this video isn't even in 4k60fps only 1080.

    John stravinskiJohn stravinski10 dager siden
  • Stadia and services like this need to go away. These are not consumer friendly.

    Robert LawrenceRobert Lawrence10 dager siden
  • This was a joke from the very beginning I knew it wouldn't work

    EnkayEnkay10 dager siden
  • Stadia doesn't even exist

    Gokush Kameha-ha-haGokush Kameha-ha-ha10 dager siden
  • I still don't understand how people bought into this. It seemed destined to fail before the console even launched.

    Matt CoombesMatt Coombes10 dager siden
  • Sue Stadia honestly. After knowing their plans with game devs, sue stadia

    RetroBITRetroBIT10 dager siden
  • Oh and fraud is fraud.. there is so much evidence of disappointment on NOtown… this proves the class actions case.

    Jay BrooksJay Brooks10 dager siden
  • The back end was capable of doing 4k… the dongle and controller was the biggest problem. Hardware acceleration was not there. How do we know? The remote was wifi connected for “control lag”…

    Jay BrooksJay Brooks10 dager siden
  • The fact that the stadia is still a thing annoys me to no end.

    Celphalon REDCelphalon RED10 dager siden
  • Fuck class action lawsuits. They are a slap on the wrist for these Silicon Valley companies that lie about their games and services. The government needs to step in and smack these mfers down... there are laws about false advertising

    joshua tuckerjoshua tucker10 dager siden
  • The hate for Stadia is real on this channel. The lawsuit isn't going to bear any real fruit due to the up to for 4k/60. This is on the devs.

    Sean LSean L10 dager siden
  • Sticking to consoles. No thanks on streaming games.

    Fernando LopezFernando Lopez10 dager siden
  • ONLY 5.1 Surround Sound as well??? LOL my PlayStation Headset that launched with the PS4 back in 2013 has 7.1 Surround Sound 🤣

    MrRhysReviewsMrRhysReviews10 dager siden
  • it was always 10 terraflop, for the whole system. you all got bamboozled

    devilman2197devilman219710 dager siden
  • Stadia was and is a joke

    sephiros9999sephiros999910 dager siden
  • [Stadia Ad] Gimme some some of that!! Now I know they were not referring to 4K... LOL

    Carlos Juan MarreroCarlos Juan Marrero10 dager siden
  • Why does the ps5 have 8k on the box thats misleading

    Keith HutchinsonKeith Hutchinson10 dager siden
  • Stop buying expensive toys and crying about them not working on your cheap ass setup.

    VinumVinum10 dager siden
  • I love Stadia. I don't think you've ever highlighted anything but negative press about it, though. I started feeling like your reporting was kinda getting muddled by representation bias a while back. This seems to confirm it. I don't see you saying anything about Luna? I assume the analytics show you trend better when pooping on Stadia so that is why you keep at it. Otherwise it comes off really awkward.

    VinumVinum10 dager siden
  • Even if Stadia worked perfectly, I wouldn't buy into it because Googles customer service is famously non-existent *even for business partners*.

    TigeRTigeR10 dager siden
  • Google and all of aBig Tech needs a firm pimp hand to the face.

    Jfreek5050Jfreek505010 dager siden
  • 4K ruins game performance. Let's be honest, the hardware just isn't there yet. Prettier visuals and higher frame rate is much more enjoyable than stupidly high resolution that doesn't make a difference, especially on consoles where you stand farther away from the screen.

    foufoufun0foufoufun010 dager siden
  • Why would you ever want cloud streaming? Save the cash up and get some physical hardware.

    JigzJigz10 dager siden
  • 8k 120 fps is +- 90Gbps That's about double the bandwidth of the brand-new HDMI 2.1. It's about 12 times what 802.11ac can do. I'll admit, this surprised me- it's about 60 times what your ethernet cable can do. So, unless you want to run a fiber optic cable from their servers to your tv (not your router) (or a DisplayPort 2.0 cable- those were specifically designed for this) this isn't the future as in 'we'll bring the new tech to your house', it's the future as in 'it's not technically possible' right now. More perspective? A 3090 struggles to pull 20 fps at 8k.

    SpeedingOffenceSpeedingOffence10 dager siden
  • I really wish there was a law against companies being able to say "UP TO X" when they're quoting performance numbers. It's so annoying when your ISP says UP TO 1,000,000GBS but you cant complain when you get 10mbs because they never said you'd be getting 1,000,000GBS they said UP TO 1,000,000GBS.

    Matthew WarrenMatthew Warren10 dager siden
  • There is only way to enjoy glorious 4k, come to the PCMR side, we have RTX 3000s* *RTX 3000s availability subject to change, the statement is in no form bindable and a lack of RTX 3000 may be experienced.

    MarcosMarcos10 dager siden
  • For stadia it should be Terror flops

    gavin princegavin prince10 dager siden
  • I mean, anyone that bought a stadia knowing it was owned by Google was stupid to begin with.

    Matthew RobinsonMatthew Robinson10 dager siden
  • Glad I bought a Nvidia shield pro instead.

    u/UrOverlordu/UrOverlord10 dager siden
  • What a surprise! Where are those defending this pos console?

    Karasu ShiroKarasu Shiro10 dager siden
  • Didn't sony say the pro could reach 4k and most games are checkerboarded or upresed ?

    Bradley DeanBradley Dean10 dager siden
  • Google hopefully about to get some comeuppance but at the same time I still can't feel sympathy for the fools who continually supported and protected this scam. You get what you get for believing big tech would actually keep to their advertising promises

    PhiTonPhiTon10 dager siden
  • Good. Every video game company that lies to it's customers should be sued.

    Just EvilJust Evil10 dager siden
  • It didn’t take an expert to realize this shit was never gonna happen, I was saying it wasn’t gonna happen when I heard them outright lying about how it works and the latency and other issues that plague an idea like this. We don’t have the proper internet for the average user to even get the amount of bandwidth actually needed. It’s an onion of lies and everyone who tried to vouch for them is part of these recurring problems with the gaming industry.

    Brady ArnoldBrady Arnold10 dager siden
  • Stadia definitely felt like a too good to be true story from day one.

    dezessetedezessete10 dager siden
  • Good. Misleading companies should get punished.

    Demolition Daddy HammurabiDemolition Daddy Hammurabi10 dager siden
  • I KNEW IT. Even if it is possbile in major cities in advanced countries, this won't work in most of the countries and areas.

    ocb05ocb0510 dager siden
  • The day before I was fired, my boss told me that I was doing and awesome job and he spoke about all the next project... And next day he called me and said "sorry but we have to let you go due to a upper decision and market behavior"..... I found another job in another company............ Been fired suck but is part of the life...... Welcome to the real work... By the way, Stadia is a good concept but it came to early, the market, the internet connections and more factors played against it. Maybe if it lauch in 5 or 10 years it will be a awesome product.

    Diox XetoDiox Xeto10 dager siden
  • Honestly, if the shadey marketing was a giveaway for shitty business practices, can you really be surprised that they're pulling the rug from under developers? This sounds like corporate fiscal recovery 101, if the ship is sinking, keep everyone calm until jt fully goes under. I don't approve of it, but this shit isnt new. My heart goes out to the devs, but this is almost standard practice in other floundering corporate settings. Video games are the only industry that is put on blast about it.

    Shinobi_MagiShinobi_Magi10 dager siden
  • Shitdiyyyyyyaaaa

    Kaose TKaose T10 dager siden
  • I'm glad I didn't trust them.

    Horace CroffordHorace Crofford10 dager siden
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